This episode, I chat with a new teacher of mine, from a course called “Healing from Presence,” Riyaz Motan. We talk about relating from an embodied, being-at-home place, and the many wonders and pitfalls of working, and ultimately being, with others.

Find Riyaz’s work, and sign up for his newsletter, at his website here.

I also allude to this interview with Pico Iyer and Elizabeth Gilbert.